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Photo: by Rasheeda Campbell A hand reaching for a guitar

A look into punk rock music and the way its racial diversity is perceived by the public

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Music should be something for everyone and anyone. However, it appears that some people are still limited to being able to enjoy and create certain genres of music because it doesn't "fit" their type. Some people may think that because of stereotypes and other factors, music is racially and ethnically segregated to this day. Take punk rock music for instance. Depending on the person, this sub-genre of rock could be viewed as not as diverse as it maybe should be.

 

There are of course diverse genres of music, but are the music genres diverse enough when it comes to race and ethnicity? Looking into the diversity of punk rock music, there are polls and surveys that paint this music genre as one that is not as diverse, and that doesn't really have a big impact on Black communities and other POC (people of color) communities. However, there are people who see things a little bit differently. Understanding the public's perception of diversity in punk rock music vs. the reality is important for people of different races and ethnicities who do not want to be put into a box when it comes to their musical taste.​


Statista Research Department published a poll on the public opinion on the racial diversity of selected music genres in the United States as of May 2018. This poll consists of 1, 108 respondents who were 18 years old or older. Rap/hip-hop is considered to be the most racially diverse according to 25% of respondents who thought so. Aside from 24% of respondents considering every genre to be racially diverse, the second most diverse is pop music with 20 % of respondents. Punk rock is tied with hard rock/metal with 7% of respondents saying that they believe this genre of music to be the most diverse. Although punk wasn’t considered as the least diverse, it wasn’t in the top 5 genres that are seen as the most.

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To go with Statista’s research, a poll by YouGov lists the most popular punk and punk rock music artists in America. The number one band is The Police with 55% of respondents. The number two band is Green Day with 52% of respondents, and number three is the Ramones with 43% of respondents. The list continues with 17 more spots. In this list, you'll see that it doesn’t include predominately Black or other POC artists or bands.

 

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The general public not considering punk rock as the most diverse music genre (along with racially and ethnically diverse bands not being part of YouGov’s most popular punk and punk rock music list) is a bit disconcerting, especially if you think about the roots of punk. 
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Believe it or not, punk was and still is influenced by many Black artists. Punk in the western world took influence from Black artists in reggae, r&b, and rock n' roll. According to musician, writer, Ph.D., and co-founder of the Punk Scholars Network, Mike Dines, White punk artists and bands in the U.K. took a lot of influence from reggae. For example, The Ruts is an English punk rock band that consists of four White men who are heavily influenced by reggae. Some artists had close relationships with reggae musicians. They would visit Jamaica and take what they learned back with them to incorporate that sound into their music. In the video below, Dines shows examples of punk rock artists influenced by reggae.

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Punk rock formed in the U.S. during the 1960s and like in the U.K. it really developed during the 70s. With its emergence in the states, it welcomed some of the first and most influential bands. But would you believe me if I said that some of those influential bands during that time were people of color? Bad Brains is one of the legendary and very influential Black punk rock groups to take for example. The group came from Washington, D.C. during that time. It's also important to note that D.C. had many nicknames then. Two that are relevant to this discussion are Chocolate City and D.C. Hardcore. Chocolate City is in reference to D.C.'s growing Black population and D.C. Hardcore is in reference to its epic punk scene. Now a blues bar, Madam's Organ, located in Adams Morgan in D.C., was once a "rowhouse" where Bad Brains first got their start, according to WTOP News.

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From those two names given to describe the country's capital, someone could easily assume that a lot of Black bands would have filled the punk rock scene. But this is a great example of why you should never make assumptions. Racism and stereotypes played like a couple of factors that prevented Black and POC musicians who may have wanted to make music in this sub-genre from having the space to do so back then. It could also be that the majority of people in certain racial groups were and possibly still are just naturally attracted to certain music genres. An individual's location and life experiences should also be taken into account.

 

According to Dines, "punk was a middle-class art school counter-culture." In the United Kingdom, punk was more so White culture and reggae was Black culture. A lot plays into why this is so. Politics, the monarchy, and the recession that occurred in the U.K. during the early years of punk rock have contributed to how punk became the music that attracted "White middle-class high school kids," said Dines. Specifically, during the recession in the 70s in the U.K., is when right-wing extremist rock music emerged from the skinhead sub-culture. This emergence had a negative impact on inclusion in punk. 
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Mike Dines 

By Rasheeda Campbell, MSc Digital Journalism

Reggae's Influence in Punk

The most popular punk & punk rock music artists in America

Sorted by popularity

Among Millennials  Gen X  Baby Boomers  Men  Women 

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  1.  55%

    The Police

    MUSIC ARTIST

    The most popular and the 2nd most famous punk & punk rock music artist

  2.  52%

    Green Day

    MUSIC ARTIST

    The 2nd most popular and the 3rd most famous punk & punk rock music artist

  3.  43%

    Ramones

    MUSIC ARTIST

    The 3rd most popular and the 6th most famous punk & punk rock music artist

  4.  40%

    Ozzy & Kelly Osbourne

    MUSIC ARTIST

    The 4th most popular and the most famous punk & punk rock music artist

  5.  39%

    Talking Heads

    MUSIC ARTIST

    The 5th most popular and the 9th most famous punk & punk rock music artist

  6.  38%

    Blink-182

    MUSIC ARTIST

    The 6th most popular and the 8th most famous punk & punk rock music artist

  7.  37%

    The Clash

    MUSIC ARTIST

    The 7th most popular and the 12th most famous punk & punk rock music artist

  8.  31%

    Sex Pistols

    MUSIC ARTIST

    The 8th most popular and the 5th most famous punk & punk rock music artist

  9.  30%

    Adam Ant

    MUSIC ARTIST

    The 9th most popular and the 10th most famous punk & punk rock music artist

  10.  30%

    Simple Minds

    MUSIC ARTIST

    The 10th most popular and the 14th most famous punk & punk rock music artist

  11.  30%

    Sublime

    MUSIC ARTIST

    The 11th most popular and the 15th most famous punk & punk rock music artist

  12.  29%

    Iggy Pop

    MUSIC ARTIST

    The 12th most popular and the 7th most famous punk & punk rock music artist

  13.  29%

    The Offspring

    MUSIC ARTIST

    The 13th most popular and the 16th most famous punk & punk rock music artist

  14.  27%

    Courtney Love

    MUSIC ARTIST

    The 14th most popular and the 4th most famous punk & punk rock music artist

  15.  26%

    Sid Vicious

    MUSIC ARTIST

    The 15th most popular and the 11th most famous punk & punk rock music artist

  16.  25%

    The Misfits

    MUSIC ARTIST

    The 16th most popular and the 13th most famous punk & punk rock music artist

  17.  22%

    Henry Rollins

    MUSIC ARTIST

    The 17th most popular and the 17th most famous punk & punk rock music artist

  18.  22%

    Violent Femmes

    MUSIC ARTIST

    The 18th most popular and the 19th most famous punk & punk rock music artist

  19.  21%

    Sum 41

    MUSIC ARTIST

    The 19th most popular and the 23rd most famous punk & punk rock music artist

  20.  21%

    Bad Religion

    MUSIC ARTIST

    The 20th most popular and the 18th most famous punk & punk rock music artist

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Photo: by Rasheeda Campbell

Madam's Organ Front Sign

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Photo: by Rasheeda Campbell

Madam's Organ Top Sign

How Punk Became a White Sub-culture

Mike Dines

​Just ike in the U.K., the U.S. has similar factors that contribute to the perception of music being race-specific. For some, it could be that certain music speaks to them more and addresses the type of struggles or life experiences they may be going through. Hip-hop/rap has a big part in Black culture. Some may even say that hip-hop/rap is Black culture. From a small social media poll I created, hip-hop/rap had the most amount of respondents who voted that they listen to that genre of music. The majority of those respondents were Black. When looking at those who said that they listen to punk rock music, the respondents with the highest number were White.

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This poll contributes to the perception of punk being a genre of music that is White oriented and also the perception that the majority of a race is going to be attracted to a certain genre of music. Maybe there just isn't a large enough Black audience interested in punk enough to change that narrative. 

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Aspiring musician and punk rock lover from Queens, New York, Jessie Lazo has dealt with stereotypes for being a person of color interested in punk rock. However, before she got into punk rock music she also explains that because of the common way of thinking in the environment she grew up in, she viewed punk as being prejudiced music.  

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Stereotypes are normal in America, but it does not mean that people can be placed in a box because of their race. Racial stereotypes, whether true or false, should not prevent someone from enjoying or wanting to have a successful career in a certain type of music genre. An example of a stereotype in America related to music and race is that if you're Black it's likely that you like hip-hop/rap and r&b; and only those two genres of music.

 

According to The Independent Student Newspaper of Georgia State, The Signal, "Modern expectations should not predetermine the work of Black music artists. Many Black creatives do not follow the aesthetics of hip-hop and r&b at all." Black and other people of color who are interested in genres such as punk rock may come off as unconventional, should be able to be part of the scene and get recognition for their music. 
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Musician and CEO of the Atlanta-based organization Punk Black, Von Phoenix, discusses this issue further. He believes that stereotypes are the main cause for keeping people of color out of rock music for so long. He himself has experienced stereotypes while pursuing his passion in his band Howling Star.
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Jessie Lazo
Jessie Lazo.jpeg

"In your opinion, what is the reason for Black and POC artists not getting a lot of recognition as all White bands?"

Von Phoenix 

"Did you face any stereotypes?"

Von Phoenix

 

 

 

 

Seeing that stereotypes are part of the problem for why Black and POC punk rock artists and groups can have a difficult time ranking up in the charts and getting as much recognition as White punk rock artists and bands, what could be the solution? According to Phoenix, it starts with the media and publications doing more to highlight more diverse artists and bands.

''How can more diverse artists and bands in punk rock get more recognition?''

Von Phoenix

​The general perception of music is that certain genres of music are for certain groups of people and that racially and ethnically music can be divided. In certain cases that may be true, but not in every case. Punk rock is predominately White in the western world, but as time goes on it is becoming more and more diverse. Today, young people are interested in a variety of music genres.

 

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Music crossovers and mixing genres are also contributing to the elimination of stereotypes that can limit artists; especially artists of color. Dines explains that punk is aging, but is still popular and is becoming more diverse with music crossovers. 
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Some who don't listen to punk rock  believe that music, in general, is becoming more diverse.

Opinion of Diversity in Music

Vox pop interview in Adams Morgan, Washington, D.C.

Nova Twins and Skinny Girl Diet

Mike Dines

As you can see, POC punk rock musicians and fans aren't letting poll numbers, stereotypes, racist views and the past stop them from loving this genre of music. There are many up-and-coming Black and POC artists in punk that are unapologetically making their mark in the industry. Ronx is a diverse pop-punk band from the Bronx, New York who is inspiring and influencing others, such as Lazo, to embrace their love of punk regardless of their race and ethnicity.

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Ronx pop-punk band

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